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Post by vorpatril on Nov 5, 2009 22:59:37 GMT
The acting on this is wonderful but the plot is so trite it hurts and the way it's written doesn't add up.
If Holly is actually kidnapped why didn't Matheson call her school, coach, babysitter or wherever it was that she was supposed to be? He had the phone in his hand. Instead he immediately starts jumping through Boylan's hoops (turning off the camera, jamming the door, etc.). Then there's the question of why a man with a daughter the same age as the victims is allowed in the room alone with the suspect in the first place, never mind the business with his daughter being directly involved. And they let him go in armed, seriously?
If Matheson is tricking Boylan then why hasn't Boylan noticed? Matheson isn't a rookie, he's highly involved in a case about a serial killer. Surely he's dealt with creepy and/or hostile suspects before and if Boylan really has studied Matheson then he would know what those cases were and have the public records on how Matheson handled them. So if Matheson deals with them by giving them enough rope to hang themselves in interrogation, then Boylan must have <i>some</i> idea that that might be what's going on. And if it turns out that this is an elaborate con to get Boylan to talk then what happened with Girl Number Eight was cheap. If this is an elaborate con I think that dangling Boylan out a window until he confesses is just as legal now that Matheson has pointed a gun at him. Lyndon did say that Matheson was ok as long as he didn't lay a finger on Boylan but threatening him with a gun while the camera was still running? That's not legal.
The acting is enough to keep me coming back. Both Absolom and David-Lloyd do such a spectacular job that I've been rewatching episodes just to try to catch all the nuances.
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Post by shamazipan on Nov 6, 2009 0:50:17 GMT
Even before Boylan revealed that she is kidnapped, why didn't anyone report it to Matheson? The school/babysitter/whatever would have called him to let him know they couldnt find her. I think that these plot holes are perhaps a result of the format being so tight. it has to stay tense for the whole 5 minutes and so there is no time for any exposition really. I dont think having a kid the same age as the victims is any reason for matheson to be kept off that case. Police have to distance themselves. There would constantly be officers off cases because the victim resembled a family member or something otherwise. They didn't know his daughter was involved to begin with and by the time they did he was already locked in a room with Boylan. I'm pretty sure he didn't bring out the gun until he knew about Holly, so that can be explained by the fact that he wasn't in a rational state of mind at that point.
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Post by sfinx on Nov 6, 2009 0:57:56 GMT
How very impressive how it is possible to create such effective scene. Holding my breath until tomorrow.
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Post by subtlescience on Nov 6, 2009 1:04:10 GMT
GDL is....amazing. He's simply in a whole other dimension. Absolom is outstanding, but GDL is stunning: he just is somehow, some way, able to cross the line so that there's no sense of his "acting."
The plot.....?
Waiting and hoping the gaping holes are filled by the last episode.....
But, even if the storyline itself never improves any from where it is right now--nothing detracts from GDL's tour de force. In fact, his talent is even more sharply delineated if the script never improves, because he's selling it, heart and soul.
I'm finding it difficult to watch--just and only because of GDL. His portrayal of Matheson is what makes the show too much to bear: Matheson's pain is too much to endure. Without GDL, I'm very afraid I might very well shrug it all off, because I wouldn't get past the incredulity.
But--I am still clinging to "all is not as it seems" to save the storyline.
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Post by nightowl on Nov 6, 2009 1:46:54 GMT
Let's see, judging by the fact that the desk guy didn't even notice that A, the monitor was off or B, that there was a note attached to it, what makes anyone thing that a message from Holly's school would have gotten to Matheson?
That's not assuming she's a latchkey kid who just goes home from school and waits for Dad to get there at the end of the day.
I don't see that as a plot hole at all. And there's only so much you can do in under 30 minutes of video and get the story across.
I do find the acting fabulous and extremely riveting. Fantastic casting for both gentleman and an incredible intense performance from both.
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Post by diedye on Nov 6, 2009 2:47:31 GMT
He's plastered? Huh... well, it would explain a lot. ;D So anyone taking bets on whether Matheson bites it or not? I'm voting no... Boylan's word is dirt, why would Matheson trust him to keep it? Besides, Boylan keeps saying it's a game, which it is, a mind game. Boylan doesn't need to kill the girl to get what he wants... he just has to make Matheson believe that he can and will do so if Matheson doesn't kill himself. By refusing to do so, James will beat Boylan at his own game. What I'm interested in seeing is how they're going to find his daughter... perhaps Weinberg will have something to do with that? |
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Post by joanna on Nov 6, 2009 3:23:39 GMT
its just a shame that more people won't see this drama. It worries me that the generaal population never get to see what a truly outstanding actor Gareth is. It's all in the eyes with Him. The eyes and the facial expression, the little twitches and how he carries himself,.
We've all seen him in TW able to pull is serious and sarcastic, but this has shown us what a truly brilliant dark and dramatic actor he is.
It's not just because i';m a fan that i say this, but generally as an observer of what i find to be a brilliant future talent in the making. If there isnt big things happening for Gareth in the future i will indeed eat my hat, my neighbours Dog, seven fistfulls of bumblebees and 92 peanuts!!
(note: I am allergic to bee stings and peanuts so this is a big thing for me)
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Post by pearl on Nov 6, 2009 7:49:27 GMT
I wonder how many people are watching. I imagine there are thousands and all over the world.
As a tour de force for Gareth it is something which can be shown to other producers to show case his awesome abilities.
Anyway, I couldn't sleep and woke up late at 6.55 which is late for me. Now have a headache!
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Post by Boylan on Nov 6, 2009 9:30:58 GMT
He kills himself.
And his reason for chosing Matheson makes perfect sense.
Just because he could of easily chosen someone else doesnt make it any less valid as a reason.
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Post by pearl on Nov 6, 2009 9:52:53 GMT
Who kills himself - Boylan or Matheson?
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Post by subtlescience on Nov 6, 2009 11:45:55 GMT
I'm hoping Moran is not heading for another round of CoE nihilism....
I'm very apprehensive that he intends to place the audience in the position of the detectives who watched Girl #8 die: sitting at a computer monitor, hoping for a last-minute rescue, fearing the worst--and then being made to watch it.
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Post by heathersharpe on Nov 6, 2009 12:27:11 GMT
I'm hoping Moran is not heading for another round of CoE nihilism.... I'm very apprehensive that he intends to place the audience in the position of the detectives who watched Girl #8 die: sitting at a computer monitor, hoping for a last-minute rescue, fearing the worst--and then being made to watch it. i'm training to be a ring wrestler and one of the things we learn is meaning of diffent moves and spots and one thing we learn about is whats called a Hope spot where the people watching are lead to believe that the Face (good guy) is going to win, at that point, but then the Heel (bad buy) does somthing to the good guy i.e cheats to win, moves out he way this can also be the same for the face but with out the cheating In this case working on wrestling wording the hope spot was that they was going to save girl 8 but couldn't so if i work on wrestling thinking holly could be saved becasue thats the finsher lol and this make no sence what so ever sorry |
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Post by toriarose on Nov 6, 2009 15:30:50 GMT
Another gripping episode - the tension is incredible. Can't imagine how this is going to end well with only one more 5 minute episode left . . . As somebody's already said, if Matheson shoots himself then how will Boylan stop Holly being ripped apart - him being cuffed to the chair. Really impressive performances all round - Tracy-Ann's character is a realy 'ball breaker', Joe has created a real monster in Boylan, and Gareth is totally convincing as a man who's world has just been turned upside down. Might have to watch the last episode from behind the sofa!!
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Post by jooles34 on Nov 6, 2009 15:49:40 GMT
Next ep is def going to be watched from behind the sofa, with a high likelihood of cushion cuddling to boot. Have to be out until about 11 tonight though so may explode with anticipation before I get to see it…
Will also have to avoid Twitter, LJ, Facebook and here before I watch it!
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Post by thistle on Nov 6, 2009 19:25:19 GMT
Unfortunately, I can't see the computer from behind my couch, so I'll be sitting at the computer, looking at the screen from between my fingers. I may be a little late for a dinner date since I'm not leaving the house until I've seen the end of the series (I live in the States and get to watch at 4pmEST).
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